This is Hello Freedom and I'm your host Terry Cole.

For almost two decades I've been a licensed psychotherapist and transformation coach,

and on this show I will bring you simple strategies

based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews,

and my own insights and observations

from my time on the front lines of the fascinating worlds of entertainment,

empowerment, and mental health.

Now let's get going with today's episode.

I'm super excited to welcome my guest today, Jason Gatis to the show and we are, we kind of do the same thing different but similar where we're

both super interested in relationships and relatedness conflict resolution

effective communication, and basically up-leveling the love in your life.

So he is the founder of a

founder of a beautiful podcast that I love so much called the Smart Couple Podcast and also a relationship school which is super cool

where there's different elements of the school which we'll talk about later.

But welcome, Jason.

Thank you, Terry. Good to be here.

So I'd like to see you again.

Me too. It's so fun.

Okay, so let's just, why don't we start by talking a little bit about your story

and then we'll get into sort of the male female frame of

conflict resolution and the things that you've seen what I love about your

work of course is that one thing is that you're a heterosexual male and so I really do get insights into

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