Talk about Tivo next week. Sorry John. We're never talking about Tivo.

So we're in the midst of talking about what to do about shirts for this year.

We've been talking about it the three of us for a couple of weeks now. Ding and I really like it.

Yeah, I really like it. And we haven't really come up with any brilliant ideas in terms of design.

We don't want to just kind of phone it in and do

regurgitation of a prior design. But you know, if there are listeners that would like shirts,

we want to fulfill that need. So we're in the midst of a debate over what to do.

And we were currently leaning towards I think not doing shirts this year.

In part because T-spring isn't going to have them done and delivered before W.A.D.C.

which is typically when we try to get this thing done by. So we're not sure what to do.

Yeah, so because basically, W.A.D.C. is a nice target date because a lot of fans are there

and people like buying shirts and showing off their geek shirts there.

But the reality is the vast majority of purchasers of this shirt probably aren't going to W.A.D.C.

Yeah, we're talking like, you know, do people have T-shirt fatigue or people tired of T-shirts?

Do people have too many T-shirts? Is there anything else we could sell? Maybe a hoodie?

Maybe like Mug? Is there other stuff that's not shirts?

Polo shirts. So and my position is very strong that I think we should have an original design every time

we do these things. Because we don't want to like, I learned forever ago from Howard Stern,

actually, we learned a lot from him. He had a thing he was kind of criticizing somebody else.

I think I might have been Rush Limbaugh. Some other talk show host for constantly

nickel-ing-diaming the audience for just selling them all sorts of garbage with his name on it

or something like that. And Howard said like his position is always to basically ask the audience

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