1663: Race and Mormon Scripture Pt 1 w/ LDS Discussions - 21

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2022

⏱️ 134 minutes

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Summary

Join Mike from LDSdiscussions.com and John as they discuss race and Mormon scripture. This is part 1 of a 2-part series. We are also grateful to have a few call-in guests for this episode.

Today’s episode covers:

Personal stories from black members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) of the racist things said to them and ways they were treated, and how psychologically harmful the racist doctrines have been for them
The most problematic verses and teaching of past prophets from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that specifically highlight dark or black skin as a curse directly from God
Context and proof showing the belief literally meant dark skin and was not an idiom or euphemism for anything else
The early belief that the skin color of Indigenous North Americans could/did actually change to become lighter when converting to Mormonism and living more “righteously”
The Book of Abraham as evidence of Joseph Smith’s racism, codifying racism into scripture for ALL black people, not just as a curse specific to North American Indigenous people as stated in the Book of Mormon.
The doctrinal basis for the early Mormon ban against black people worshiping and marrying in the Temple, as well as the ban against black Mormon men from receiving the Priesthood, the authority needed to hold any leadership position in the Church as well as perform essential saving ordinances such as baptism, receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost etc.
The real reasons the Church was pressured to lift the ban and the measures taken to make it happen despite continued vehement opposition among some Church leaders.

1665: Race & Mormon Scripture Pt 2 w/ LDS Discussions – 22

LDS Discussions Essay on Race

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast.
0:04.0	I am one of your hosts for today.
0:06.7	John Delin, it's August 31st, 2022.
0:10.2	And we are many, many episodes into an amazing series on Mormon Stories podcast called LDS
0:16.5	Discussions, where my friend Mike joins with us to talk about Mormon Church truth claims.
0:23.4	I think we're 21 episodes in or so by my count.
0:27.3	I want to just remind everybody that this entire series can be seen on or listen to
0:32.3	on Mormon Stories, but we've also created isolated or specialized feeds on Spotify,
0:38.5	on anchor, and also there's a playlist on YouTube and you can access the LDS Discussions
0:45.4	stream on Apple Podcasts or wherever you consume your episodes.
0:50.0	But if you just want, you know, 15, 20 episodes of digging into Mormon Church truth claims,
0:54.9	where we try to be as objective and as fair and as scholarly as possible, while still
1:00.0	sometimes giving emotional reactions, that's what the LDS Discussions project is about.
1:05.1	It's for people who are genuinely open to learning about the Mormon Church's truth claims
1:10.1	and making as objective as possible decision about those truth claims.
1:14.4	Or if they just want to be informed, that's what this project is about.
1:17.9	Today we have a super important but also very, very difficult subject to discuss.
1:24.5	We are going to be discussing race and LDS or Mormon scriptures.
1:29.9	We debated whether to use the word race or racism, but the truth is we want people to feel
1:35.3	comfortable that we're going to do our best to not be just bashing, but instead, you
1:39.9	know, are trying to just be fair and balanced.
1:42.6	And so we're going to do our best.
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