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The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan

166: How to Build a Billion Dollar Mobile Gaming Company From Scratch, with Holly Liu of Kabam

The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan

Nathan Chan

Marketing, Business, Entrepreneurship

4.8 • 662 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2017

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Ask yourself, just how many hours have you sunk into that palm-sized rectangle of plastic, metal, and glass known as the smartphone? As the co-founder of Kabam, one of the world's leading companies in mobile games, Holly Liu might be able to provide an answer to that, and it would likely be a huge number. But luckily for us, and our listeners, she's far more interested in talking about how she managed to build a billion-dollar company from scratch by giving away her products for free. If you don't know Kabam already, you've probably heard of the company's hugely popular games, such as Kingdoms of Camelot, The Godfather, and Marvel's Contest of Champions, just to name a few. Each one operates on a "freemium" model, where users can download and play games for free. This might sound crazy, but it's actually a ludicrously lucrative business model, with Kabam making the bulk of their revenue through in-game currency and advertising revenue. Kingdoms of Camelot alone has, to date, grossed over $250 million. The secret behind Liu's success is simple, she just asks herself: "Where are the people?" That question led to Kabam's successful pivot into building a Facebook game and tapping into the power of viral marketing, to even partnering with the major studios in Hollywood to build games for upcoming movies and franchises. For Liu, there's so much more to surviving in the mobile gaming industry than building a successful product, especially when great products exist on almost every corner. It takes an equal amount of dedication to marketing, finding the right partnerships, and, as always, understanding where your customers are. In this episode you'll learn: What opportunities lie within the mobile gaming industry How to take your business where the customers are How to pivot when your first, second, and even third ideas fail What goes into making a product as viral as possible Why you should look to grow your company through the power of partnerships How to make being social your competitive advantage & so much more!

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This is episode number 166 with Holly Lou of the Founder Podcast.

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What you need is thirst.

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You need to be a thirsty human who is intent on learning.

0:13.0

It's a really fascinating exploration of human potential.

0:18.7

The Founder Podcast.

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Even the greatest entrepreneurs had help.

0:24.8

If you want to learn from the most successful founders on the planet, you are in the right place.

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Branson, Mark Cuban, Tony Robbins, Tim Ferriss, Ariana Humpington, Steve Case, Gary V, Sophia

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Homerosa, Barbara Corcoran, Damon John.

0:37.5

Learn from the greatest minds in business today with interviews hosted by Nathan Chan.

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This is not your average entrepreneur podcast.

0:45.8

The Founder Podcast.

0:52.8

Hey guys, thank you so much for tuning in. Before we start today's episode, I just want to let you know that our goal at founder is to help entrepreneurs succeed however we can by giving away high quality content in the form of interviews, blog posts, podcasts, YouTube videos, you name it. We put out so much content to help

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you. And another interesting project that we're working on right now is partnering with

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world-class founders like Damon John, Alexa von Tobel, Greta Van Real, and so many more to teach

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crucial skills like negotiation, finance, e-commerce, and so much more.

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So if you'd like to get access to these free trainings with founders like this, which is 100%

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free, just go to founder.com forward slash free.

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Okay, so now let's talk about today's episode.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the founder podcast.

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My name is Nathan Chan and I am the host of the founder podcast and also the CEO and publisher

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of Founder Magazine, also Founder.com.

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