#165: Why is Shaping So Hard?, Pt. 1

Drinking From the Toilet: Real dogs, Real training

Drinking from the Toilet: Real Dogs, Real Training

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4.7 • 677 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we discuss why we often consider shaping to be an advanced technique, why I think it doesn’t have to/shouldn’t be that way, why I think how many of us first learned about shaping is contributing to the problem, how the expectations we have around shaping (based on how we were taught) might be getting in the way of doing good training, the two expectations that can get in the way: that shaping is linear and that it should be spontaneous, changing how we think about shaping to consider the whole ABC contingency can allow us to do better training without having to struggle so much, you can set yourself and your dog up for success and it is still shaping!, there is no cheating in shaping as long as you are being honest with yourself (and your dog), and setting up for success means a lot more than just training in a low distraction environment.

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0:00.0	Now, I used to think that I need to put my dog in a very simple distraction-free environment.
0:06.8	So, you know, we talk about, oh, go into your bathroom, close the door, and pull the curtains.
0:10.4	And that's true.
0:10.9	That reduces the distractions by a lot.
0:12.6	But you know what?
0:13.1	It changes the heck out of the context because the number of behaviors that I actually want my dog to perform in the bathroom are low.
0:37.1	Hey there, fellow training nerds.
0:39.1	You're listening to drinking from the toilet.
0:41.1	If you like to geek out about combining the science of behavior with positive reinforcement philosophy in real life, you have come to the right place.
0:47.7	And I'm your host, Hannah Branigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, and author of the book Awesome Obedience and its companion, awesome obedience, the the field guide, which are both available from clickertraining.com. I'm also the absent-minded genius
0:59.1	behind my online mentorship program, Zero to CD, which opens again for enrollment at the end of
1:04.4	October, which is this month. This month is October. To be honest, I'm probably more absent-minded
1:09.7	than genius. So I'll have to work on that
1:12.6	description a little bit more. But at any rate, make sure you are on my email list if you would
1:16.8	like to get the announcement about exactly when the doors open for enrollment for that program.
1:22.9	You can go to zero to cd.com for more info and to get put on that list. On this episode, we are talking
1:30.5	about shaping and what makes it so hard and some thoughts that I've had or maybe complaints or
1:37.8	concerns, nothing so structurally sound as a soapbox, but definitely some big feelings
1:42.2	that I have around how we think about and talk about
1:45.5	and to a certain extent apply shaping concepts. But before we get into that, got us in a shout
1:52.1	out to a couple of awesome folks for supporting this podcast on Patreon. So huge thanks to Jane L.
1:57.3	and Wendy S. I love y'all. Really appreciate your support. If you'd like to join them,
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