Marshall and Saga here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

We have a country that has really fallen apart, the country that can't get

anything done. Nobody's trust each other. The dialogue is toxic. And so yeah, if you like things the way they are, if you like things to be terrible, then yes, let's make it really hard to vote. Make it even harder so we can have even more misery.

But if you don't think that the country is working the way it should, and I certainly don't. Something has to change in a radical way.

And while we're turning, it just levers technology to early this, you already do more complicated things than you're following every day.

Hey everybody, we are coming back to you over an awesome show today. This is a direct follow up with our conversation with Andrew Yang.

It came on Tuesday that was tied to his new book, Forward Notes on the Future of American Democracy.

That episode was all about how Andrew thinks things in this country have gotten so bad that the only thing we can do is enact major systemic change

through the venue and the avenue of a third party leading to open primaries and right to choice voting.

Today's guest is also fitting in this thing. He believes we need major systemic change to fix America's political death spiral.

At least that's what many people ourselves included often feel. Our guest is Bradley Tusk.

Now people who are in Andrew Yang World have probably heard of Bradley before. He was a consultant to Andrew's mayoral campaign earlier this year.

He was the campaign manager for Michael Bloomberg in 2009. Has had also a different involvement in the political space.

But interestingly to the fact that the show covers a bunch of different spaces and topics, he's also a venture capitalist.

He works and leads Tusk ventures. He's notable for having actually been one of the initial people who pioneered Uber's strategy to get around the really, really harsh regulatory picture that a lot of us were seeing there.

We'll talk about this on the episode, but it's easy to have beef Uber now. But for those of us who are in DC back in 2014, we are definitely very appreciative to Bradley's efforts to make it so that we could actually use credit cards when we tried to get different parts of the city.

But soccer, what is his actual idea that we came in and talked about and what did you think of it?

Bradley's all about mobile voting. And I got to admit, I was skeptical Bradley. I mean, Rand Mike Bloomberg's campaign, work for Chuck Schumer,

seems somebody who would be ideologically opposed. But we start off from the same place, which is that American democracy actually is broken, is that the current system is terrible at solving problems.

What I love about what he's saying is he's trying to advance something which really would not necessarily benefit his political ideology. And he's very open about that.

He's like, look, I wanted to be left right. I just want people to get more involved, which would at least change something change the incentives mobile voting 70 to 80% turnout.

It would change everything in terms of the incentives that people who would vote in primaries, the people who would vote and which would then change how legislators themselves behaved in Washington.

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