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B.J. Baldwin, how would you define yourself a professional truck

race car driver?

What is it called exactly?

Well, I've been in professional motorsports for quite some time it's unlimited production truck or

trophy truck racing.

Okay.

Long distance endurance racing in the desert.

So truck racing didn't sound right.

I'm glad you clarified that.

Yeah. Although it doesn't sound horrible so you've

done like the big ones a lot I mean you've been doing this for years so yeah

how did you get into that? You know what it started as a

Started as like a kind of a hobby

With you know small buggies and stuff like that and I started doing really well and got into

trucks and started kind of morphing into a professional motorsports team with

marketing partnerships with a wide variety of

different companies. So it's been like I guess carts and trucks for you mostly

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