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Hello and welcome to our national conversation about conversations about race, the weekly

podcast where we're trying to figure out our way forward in the at best and certain racial landscape where the president-elect is hiring and surrounding himself with white nationalists.

I'm Anna Holmes and joining me from the Panoply Studios in the safely blue state of New York are Baratune Day Thurston, author of How to Be Black. Hey, Bartone Day.

Yo!

Raquel Sepeda, author of Bird to Paradise. Hi, Raquel. Hey. And documentary filmmaker and

reporter Fazulat Aslam. Welcome to the show.

Al-Ale-Qa-a-a-l-l-l-l-a-l-l-l-l-slam. So I don't know about you all, but I'm still kind of processing what happened last week, and I think I will be for some time to come.

I think I said something on Twitter to the effect of, I may accept it, but I'll never get over it,

but I actually think it might be the other way around, that I'll get over it, but I'll never accept it.

So anyway, we'll talk about among other things, our feelings about the election today, the spike in hate crimes that have followed it. And last but not least,

the ways in which the press has already started to treat Trump and his incoming in his administration

as normal. So I just want to start out with a simple question for each of you. How are you feeling

right now? You know, I said before the election that I can't wait to be relieved of this

constant pressure and anxiety I feel.

And since that day, it has sunk its claws into my inner being and it will not let go.

I mean, I feel it in my chest.

I feel it in my head. I might if I just stop for a second and feel what I feel it in my chest. I feel it in my head.

I, if I just stop for a second and feel what I feel in my body, I feel a constant tension.

Can you talk a little bit more about what the anxieties are directed at or result of?

You know, we're talking about hate crimes that people have experienced after the election.

But for me, I keep thinking about the things I had experienced before the election as a Muslim in this country.

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