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Mormon Stories Podcast

164: Richard Packham and How the LDS Church Creates Unnecessary Enemies Pt. 1

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2010

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this 4-part series, we interview Richard Packham -- co-founder of the Ex-Mormon foundation. Throughout the interview and via Richard's own personal story, we explore 3 ways in which the LDS Church creates unnecessary enemies: 1) By not being honest about its own history (e.g. teaching accurate history), 2) By breaking up families (when one no longer believes), and 3) By harming the loved ones of those who have left the church. To conclude (part 4), Richard discusses the benefits of religious belief in general and the LDS church specifically, along with the mission of the ExMormon foundation, and bears a final testimony regarding the joy/happiness he has experienced since leaving the church. NOTE: The purpose of this interview is NOT to encourage people to stay or leave the LDS church. It is simply to: 1) Seek to understand and to validate the path of those who have felt compelled to leave the church, and 2) Explore ways in which the church can seek to no longer create unnecessary enemies.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is John with a few very quick announcements.

0:12.0

First, an update on the Mormon Stories fundraising campaign since a few of you have asked about it.

0:17.0

I'm a little over halfway where we need to be in monthly subscribers to be able to continue Mormon stories at its current level past July 2010.

0:26.0

So let me both thank all of you who have signed up as a monthly subscriber and encourage any of you who haven't yet to please consider doing so.

0:33.0

All donations are tax deductible and will go directly to the time and materials used to produce the podcast.

0:40.0

Second, registration for the two Sunstone workshops I'm holding on August 4th is now up.

0:45.0

The morning session is entitled How to Navigate an LDS Faith Crisis in or Out of the Church.

0:50.0

And the afternoon session is entitled How to Navigate a Marriage when one of you loses their testimony.

0:55.0

Hopefully some couples will be able to attend that.

0:57.0

All the information you need to register can be found at MormonStories.org.

1:01.0

I hear the registration is filling up fast, so please register soon if that's something you want to attend.

1:07.0

Third, I've decided to record the entire workshop and make the proceedings available to all Mormon stories monthly subscribers as a thank you for your support.

1:16.0

So I'm hoping that might encourage a few more of you to support Mormon stories if you were able again at MormonStories.org.

1:23.0

And finally, if any of you are interested in joining the Mormon Stories Private Internet Forum to converse with other like-minded Mormons, please send me an email via Facebook and I'll make sure you get added.

1:34.0

Whew! I was a lot of announcements. Thanks for your patience and now on with the show.

1:47.0

Hello and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories Podcast. My name is John Delin.

1:52.0

I am very excited to have you with us today.

1:55.0

And today I have, as my special guest, a man whom I've been associated with or at least aware of for, I don't know, at least 10 years.

2:05.0

Richard Packham. Richard Packham, thanks for joining us today on Mormon Stories.

2:09.0

It's my pleasure. Thank you for inviting me, John.

2:13.0

Again, it's my pleasure.

2:15.0

Okay, so today we're dealing with some topics that are going to be very, very sensitive to a lot of people on all sides of the faith spectrum.

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