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Coaching for Leaders

164: How to Handle a Boss Who’s a Jerk, with Tom Henschel

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Management, Careers, Business

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2014

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Tom Henschel: The Look & Sound of Leadership

Is someone you care about – or maybe even you – working for a jerk? My guest Tom Henschel from the Look & Sound of Leadership podcast helps us to navigate this difficult situation.

How to know if it’s just you

  • Test the waters, but be careful

How to address it

  • When you decide to talk, leave the emotion out of it
  • Frame the business concern, not you as the victim
  • Don’t take it personally
  • Don’t speak for others

You are not going to change your boss

  • It’s not your place to get coaching for your boss
  • Nothing you will do will likely change your boss’s behavior
  • If you can accept that, what do you want to do?

If it’s really a business issue, give the feedback

  • Avoid being attached to the outcome
  • Once the feedback is given, let it go
  • Rehearse the feedback with someone trusted before you give it

What to do when the boss is chaotic

  • Calm down with someone who is chaotic
  • Take tons of notes
  • Get clear agreements
  • When they change something, don’t take it personally
  • Consider sending a note afterwards to summarize what is said

How to deal with the narcissist

  • Be a good audience and ask how you can help them to succeed
  • “Narcissists crave attention and there’s not enough room in the spotlight for both of you.” -Tom Henschel
  • “With narcissists, in order to succeed with them, you need to not compete with them.” -Tom Henschel
  • Have support outside of work too, since you won’t get it from your boss
  • When you can do it honestly, throw them a bone
  • Always approach situations with collaboration and support

What do you do with the screamer?

  • Don’t engage, wait it out

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0:00.0

My friend Tom Henschel joins me today to take on this topic,

0:04.0

How to Handle a Boss Who's a Jerk.

0:07.0

This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 164.

0:11.0

Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximize 1st

0:28.0

Greetings to you from Orange County, California. This is coaching for leaders and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac. This is a weekly coaching show to help us all be better leaders through improve communication, human relations, and

0:36.8

personal leadership.

0:38.8

All that stuff sounds so good, doesn't it?

0:41.9

And yet, the reality is in some organizations that we are struggling or maybe

0:48.9

our entire organization is struggling with a boss who is a jerk or any other number of terms

0:56.8

that we could use to describe a boss that we just don't get along with or

1:01.7

don't fire on the same cylinders with and this is a topic that really came forefront for me a couple months ago when I administered the survey of the coaching for leaders community.

1:12.4

This was something that was mentioned

1:14.3

a couple of times. And in addition, this is something that I have seen people run into throughout my

1:20.7

career. I've had many, many conversations over the years with clients and

1:24.5

you know even friends and family members about this very issue and it is

1:28.6

something that most of us if we haven't struggled with ourselves we certainly

1:32.2

know someone in our network or who we care about who has.

1:37.0

And so I wanted to tackle this topic, but frankly, this is a hard topic.

1:42.0

And so I wanted to call, I had to call in the big guns for this one because I

1:46.7

I certainly don't have all the wisdom on this and I know our guest doesn't have it all a hundred% figured out with perfect answers for this either, but my guest is someone who knows how to coach and help people to lead very effectively.

2:03.3

And Tom Henschel is an executive coach here in Southern California.

2:07.8

He works with lots of leaders, especially out here on the West Coast,

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