On today's episode, we've got Karen, who has started multiple seven-figure businesses related to Amazon, and it's the listing optimization specialist.

We're going to be doing a deep dive into how to make a great listing in 2020.

How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the serious sellers podcast by Helium 10.

I am your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is the show that's a completely BS-free, unscripted, and unrehehearsed organic conversation about serious strategies for serious

sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. And we've got a new serious seller here that we just

added to our team in the last few months. Karen, how's it going? I'm doing awesome, Bradley. Thanks

for having me here today. I'm excited. It's great to have you here. I think as people are going to get to know you, they're going to see how such a sad and boring person you are with your personality. No, it's the opposite. You're probably the most bubbly, bubbly person I know. So this is going to be great. Now, it's actually funny. We've been working together for a couple months now, but kind of on purpose, I haven't really dug too deep into your history because just like I do with everything, I always like to do it organically, you know, on this show. And I don't want to know things beforehand. I want to learn a lot, you know, from the actual episode here. You live in Orange County here in California. You moved here from Utah.

Now, is that where you were born and raised?

So I was actually born in Mission Hills, California. And then my family moved to Utah when I was

10 in a small little town called Salem, Utah. Very cold. It was quite the shock, I'll tell you,

Bradley. My mom's idea of snow boots

were her 70s 5-inch disco boot heels. Nice. It wasn't a good introduction to the snow.

I was freezing. I was like, this is terrible. Get me back to California. So I'm really happy

to be here. I'll tell you, I love California. This weather is divine.

So I have nothing to complain about.

I'll tell you,

I'm so,

so happy here in Irvine.

All right.

So when you were growing up over there in,

in Utah,

you know,

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