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Everybody, this is going to be a slightly shorter episode than normal, because Mike and I were just basically doing the podcast without doing the podcast because we were talking about things you were allowed to.

But it was so on brand.

If anyone's ever wondered, this podcast is literally just us having a conversation and there is no difference between the hit record and the not

hit record. I described this as something the other day is we have like an hour and a half,

two hour conversation and we record the middle of it basically every week. That's what we think.

The um, so we were talking about combat, we were talking about combat design. So I was saying

we, so we were talking about, and keeping it very vague about both of our NDA things, about combat design.

And I said we have a term for that in my team, which is called Warcrafting.

I don't think this is, and I said, do you know the one about the Warcraft session duration?

You don't.

So this is my, this is one of my favorite game design things that ever happen.

So early on in Warcraft, I think it was a couple of years in, they realized that Warcraft

was really fucking addictive, right?

They realized that people were playing the game for absurd durations, like six, seven hours

straight, hours straight.

And on the one hand, if you're, you know, a company, you're like, well, that's good.

They're engaging with our stuff.

It's win.

But what they realized was it was burning people out.

People were not wanting to play the game.

Wow.

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