We went one particular trip to San Diego and all three of my band members just got

fucking trashed afterwards just wasted and we were sleeping on someone's floor and I just remember being the only sober one there like I would drink occasionally but I would never get belligerent or anything like that and I was just felt like a babysitter and I was sleeping on a floor. We'd probably eaten whatever shit fast food that night.

I was just like, nope, this ain't it. I can't handle a few, even a couple more years of this.

That was definitely the moment I was just, I love guys still love them still talk to him everything like that but it was just like with me working harder than everyone else paired with the lifestyle of essentially making no money and living in closets and all these things that I look back and think like others are kind of sacrifices that I was making to pursue this larger goal.

It just became for me like I got continually worried

about relying on other people for my own success.

Hello friends and welcome back to the Light Watkins show where I interview ordinary people just like you and me who've taken extraordinary leaps of faith in the direction of their path, their purpose, or what they've identified as their mission,

and in doing so, they've been able to positively impact and inspire the lives of many other people

who've either heard about their story or who've witnessed them in action or

who've directly benefited from their work.

And this week on the show I'm in conversation with somebody whose work and

dedication to their work I've admired from afar for a few years now

But first a little backstory

For a long time I've been a huge fan of Kanye West. More so, I'm a fan of his music and his overall creative

expression. I don't know a whole lot about his personal life or his mental health or his politics,

but I've always appreciated his consistency of high quality

storytelling albums and his willingness to take creative risks and his influence on other artists.

And as a fellow content creator,

Kanyay's output has been nothing short of remarkable.

But, like a lot of people, I didn't know much about

the backstory of K of Kanye's production.

I just appreciated his music.

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