This is Hello Freedom and I'm your host Terry Cole.

For almost two decades I've been a licensed psychotherapist and transformation coach and on this show I will bring you simple strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations from my time on the front lines of the

fascinating worlds of entertainment, impairment, and mental health.

Now let's get going with today's episode. Well, hello and welcome to Hello Freedom.

I'm your host Terry Cole.

I'm super excited that you decided to come and hang out with me for a little bit today.

This is a very juicy episode.

I'm actually interviewing two of my friends.

They are a married couple who have written a book together called

Getting to Hell Yes, the conversation that will change your business and the rest

of your life. So that's Alexandra Jamieson, who if you listen to the show, you know that she has been a

guest on the show before, and her husband Bob Gower. And I just went to their wedding two

years ago, actually, Vic and I. And Alex and I were in a mastermind together a couple

years ago and became great friends and I really love what these guys do and

are doing so I'll give you a little bit of background because

actually once the interview starts I just dive into other things and I don't

really talk about what they're doing. So Bob is an authority on agile development, lean theory, and responsive

organizational design. So he's authored a bunch of books and has assisted

leaders at numerous companies, GE, Ford, Chanel, Spotify, in creating more effective organizations.

He holds an MBA in sustainable management and is a certified positive psychology practitioner.

He speaks and publishes regularly on what it takes to build great

organizations and to communicate effectively. Now if you remember Alex Jameson from when she was on before. She was one of the co-producers of the movie

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