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1606: The Grave Detector (Junk Science Bonus)

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Think all forensic evidence is foolproof? You'd be surprised. In our latest bonus episode of PRETEND, we're taking a deep dive into the murky world of forensic science with M. Chris Fabricant from the Innocence Project. We're talking about how some methods, like bite mark analysis and cadaver dogs, might not be as reliable as you’d think. It's a thought-provoking look at the challenges of separating solid science from shaky beliefs in our legal system. Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System by M. Chris Fabricant: https://www.amazon.com/Science-American-Criminal-Justice-System/dp/1636140300 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Apple.

0:08.0

It's been 40 years since Gina Hall was murdered in Pulaski County.

0:12.0

Her murderer Steve Eperley was convicted but a body

0:15.5

was never found. Now within the last few months Gina's older sister with the

0:20.4

help of forensic anthropologist has found some of Gina's DNA and remains.

0:25.6

This is a news clip from W.D.B.J. in Roanoke, Virginia.

0:29.8

This local news story, without any evidence, proclaims that Gina Hall's DNA and pieces of bone

0:37.0

have been found.

0:38.6

Let me play you more of this horrendous attempt at journalism.

0:42.1

WGJ 7s Ann Taylor joins us live in the studio tonight.

0:45.0

So Ann Taylor, what is Gina's sister saying about these new discoveries?

0:49.0

Kate, talking with Gina's sister, Delanaana truly gave me goosebumps.

0:54.0

And that's when the miracles began. That's when the truth became unveiled. That's when the pieces of the puzzle

1:00.0

started showing up and just started fitting together and I now have the truth.

1:05.1

Forty years after Gina Renee Hall was murdered in Pulaski County, there are new pieces

1:11.1

that could help map out where to find her body.

1:13.7

Gina's sister Delano Hall-Bodmer says despite a conviction for the murderer Steve Eberley,

1:19.2

she still wants closure.

1:21.2

Delano was introduced to Dr Arpad Voss, a forensic anthropologist who had invented an instrument

1:27.4

to detect DNA buried beneath the surface.

1:31.2

Since then, Gina's remains have been located across eight locations throughout the New River Valley using that device.

1:38.0

Oh really? I think what the rookie reporter is trying to say is that Arpad Voss says that he located DNA

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