I write the way I speak because that's all I know.

And if I had to sit down and write like a more professional book

or even give a more professional podcast interview,

I don't think I could do it.

But what I have learned over so many years is that maybe that's actually

okay and maybe that's a skill. I'm going to be talking. I guess this would be our official second podcast together, Adam.

Second Podcast.

Yay! My milestones. I'm super happy. I know you're super busy and a lot has changed since the last time you and I spoke

The world has changed, but I know you were working on a new book. Is that a good place for us to start the conversation?

Yeah, we can or if you want to build up to it, that's okay to you.

I'll follow your leave.

Well, let's try and see where it takes us.

Tell me about your latest book, your endeavor, and anybody has ever written a book before, know the difficulties of

capturing your thought, knowing that it's forever going to be memorialized in print form, and you can't

take it back, you can't publish the book. Jesus Christ, no pressure.

Holy shit, I just came on this podcast and I am already being attacked.

No, I, so it is intimidating to make a book yeah and you know you know this about me I never

set out to be an author I was just sort of doing my design and an illustration work and

then a book was pitched to me and did well and sort of, you know, career sometimes doesn't happen the way we think it will, but with this book there was a lot of, pressure but a lot of interest from the publisher like hey

Adam let's have a meeting hey let's go to lunch like when is your next book coming and I

did not want to make a new book unless I really knew what I wanted to say and felt like a book was the right way to say it because there's so many ways to say things and finally after four years after my last book came out but

actually six years since I really wrote a book this new one is coming out and it's called you are here for now.

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