I'm John Robbins, and joining me on How Do You Coke this week is the musician Justin Hawkins.

How big a meatloaf fan, I.

A big meatloaf fan.

I remember he came over to me, grabbed me, and he squeezed me, and he said to me,

I want you to think of me as your father.

And he had like sausage on his breath.

So every time I smell sage and pork, I think of meatloat.

So that's how do you cope with me, John Robbins. Find us wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Ishi Harmon, and this is Israel's story.

Israel's story is brought to you by the Jerusalem Foundation and the times of Israel.

Next week, we'll be celebrating the second Passover since the start of the war.

People around the world will gather at Sidel tables and talk about slavery and freedom, liberty and social

justice. We'll ask how this night, this cedil, is different from all other nights. We'll offer up

some answers about bitter herbs and comfortable cushions, but the truth is that once again,

just like the previous 554 nights, there will be countless

people throughout the region who aren't reclined and sheltered, but are rather suffering

and homeless and feeling pain.

There will be countless sedal tables with empty seats and missing people.

I'm recording this in late March and pray in every possible way that by the time it airs,

it will no longer be true. But at least as of today, there will also be Israeli hostages who are still held in captivity in Gaza.

People for whom the words of the Hagada are, more than anything else, an accurate description of their daily lives.

People who will say this is the bread of affliction that our ancestors ate in the land of Egypt,

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