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Today in Parliament

16/10/2025

Today in Parliament

BBC

Government

4.4162 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The latest on the Chinese spying collapsed trial.

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

Order. Order.

0:08.6

Hello, I'm Sean Curran, and this is today in Parliament from BBC Radio 4.

0:13.1

For Thursday, the 16th of October, when ministers faced another day of questions about the

0:19.7

collapse of a court case against two men accused of spying for China.

0:24.2

Who the hell side are you on?

0:26.4

This isn't about the bureaucracy. This is about leadership.

0:29.8

A minister says the government's first priority is keeping the country safe.

0:33.7

We wanted this case to proceed. I'm sure all members of the House did.

0:37.4

And I know you did too, Mr Speaker. We are all profoundly to proceed. I'm sure all members of the House did, and I know you did

0:38.0

too, Mr Speaker. We are all profoundly disappointed. It did not. And is the new crime bill a little unwieldy?

0:45.3

Look at it. It's like a telephone book. But first, late on Wednesday night, the government

0:52.2

published witness statements at the heart of the growing political row about the collapse of a court case against two men accused of spying for China.

1:02.7

Christopher Cash, a former parliamentary researcher and Chris Berry, were charged last year when the Conservatives were in power.

1:10.4

Both had denied any wrongdoing.

1:12.9

Last month, the case was dropped.

1:14.7

The Director of Public Prosecutions said the proceedings were dropped

1:18.8

after the government failed to provide evidence

1:21.4

that it regarded China as a national security threat.

1:25.5

In the newly released statements,

1:29.2

the Deputy National Security Advisor, or DNSA, Matthew Collins, said that China represented the biggest state-based threat

1:37.2

to the country's economic security, and that the Chinese intelligence services were

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