If FI is not a number, what is it?

Like, what are we truly trying to achieve when we're building FI?

And ultimately, FI, I think, is the concept of wanting to financially put yourself in a position

in which you can make decisions about your life based on what you want to do rather than based on what you

need to do or have to do.

Welcome to the real estate and financial independence podcast. My name is Chad Carson.

You can also call me coach, and this is a show all

about investing in real estate, achieving financial independence, and doing more of what matters.

Hey, team, whether you're a new listener or a long-time listener, it is great to have you here today.

This is episode number 159. The title is Hope, Fear, and Financial Independence.

This is a wide-ranging conversation with my friend Paula Pant.

Paula has a podcast, a blog, you could call it a media empire now, that started from just

writing articles online.

Related to financial independence, related to real estate investing, we have a lot of

crossover in our content, and I admire a lot of her philosophy and the way she approaches life and teaching money. She's got the heart of a teacher. And so in our conversation, we go into many different subjects. We talk about financial independence. We talk about her motto or theme with afford anything that you can afford anything you want in life,

but you can't afford everything.

You have to make certain kinds of choices.

So we talk about financial choices and the journey you make in financial independence,

the different steps you can take to make progress, saving money, investing it.

And ultimately, this having, enjoying life, having fun.

And so that is the main part of the topic.

We also get into talking

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