You know if you have something that is has an authenticity to it in a voice and a real story and you and you know you kind of

Adhere to that and continue to to hold to what your idea was, I feel like there's so many, the people, the people who are

part of the business want sure things, like they want a sure bet.

So a lot of times it's about, okay, well, what worked before?

Let's do that again.

Let's, you know, and they're trying to, you know, recreate a formula

so that they make sure they protect themselves

from the financial standpoint but often and

their risk they can be risk of verse except for a few examples that I can

think of but you know a lot of times the things that have become this breakout

success has been stuff that has broken the rules or was

unanticipated and it's because the artist behind it stayed true to what it was that the

creative choices and things that they were trying to do to make that project go.

Hello and welcome to Being Boss, a podcast for creative entrepreneurs.

I'm Emily Thompson, and I'm Kathleen Shannon.

I'm Yolanda T Cochran, and I'm Being Boss.

Today we are talking with Yolanda T Cochran all about her background in the film

industry as a producer and we dive in a little bit about bringing more mindfulness and awareness to race and

gender in industries that are typically male dominated.

As always you can find all the tools, books, and links we reference on the show notes at

W.W. being Boss dot club. Okay bosses I was shocked whenever Emily shared with me

this week that she once had a coaching client who had a

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