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Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris.

Okay, no house keep me today. I'm going to jump right into it. Today I'm speaking with Adam

Grant. Adam is an organizational psychologist who teaches at the Wharton Business School,

where he has been the top ranked professor for seven straight years. He is a leading expert on

bringing social science into the workplace, and he's the author of four New York Times best

selling books, including Give and Take, Originals, Option B, and Power Moves. He also hosts the

Work Life Podcast in association with Ted, and he's a repeated Ted speaker. Anyway, the list of

his academic distinctions is long, and we get into some of his core interests. In this episode,

we talk about how teams work effectively. We talk about the nature of power, personality types,

and what Adam has described as the fundamental styles of interaction, giving, taking, and matching.

We talk about the critical skill of saying no, creativity, resilience, we cover the strange case

of Jonas Sock, which is surprising. And then I browbeat Adam for, I don't know, a good long time

about mindfulness, and he proves a very good sport. Anyway, I found it a very useful conversation,

and I hope you do as well. And now I bring you Adam Grant.

I am here with Adam Grant. Adam, thanks for coming on the podcast. Thanks for having me, Sam.

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