Hello, Russell Brand here. I'm excited to share some of my conversation with Ed Stafford.

Ed Stafford is nationally renowned, explore and survival expert, yeah, who holds the Guinness World Record

for being the first person to walk the length of the Amazon River. That's a proper record,

not a silly one, like being those twins in check trousers on a pair of motorbikes for being

tubby. Remember those guys? Why don't you know anything about Guinness World Record?

Why, Robert Warblow. Yeah, we all got that. I don't have a good memory.

You're Irish. You've some other thing there is to know about Guinness.

The whole past is in the past. This is a lump. The past is in the past is a lump.

Where's the future in a circle in your mind, isn't it? Because you've got synesthesia.

The past is in the past in a lump. The future is in a circle. Is that what you're saying?

Well, look, well, this is, you know, this is the public feed to encourage people to listen to

luminary. I've done a good podcast with Ed Stafford, a survivor, a man who goes into situations and

survives, walks the Amazon, stranded alone, naked on an island for six months,

survives, brings a sort of a spiritual component to survival. And you are saying that the past is

a lump. Well, he said twins and motorbikes. Well, I say stuff. Now, what?

Why don't we put on that bit? Yeah, I like that bit where he talks about being stripped of

relationship and how that sort of robbed him of a vital component of his nature. That's a lovely

path to this podcast with Ed Stafford. Now, listen, you can get a subscription to luminary for his

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