Programming Throwdown, Episode 158 Software Supply chain with Bill Manning.

Take it away, Patrick.

Welcome to another episode of Programming Thurdown.

I have a great guest here today.

We have Bill Manning.

Bill Manning is a senior solutions engineer for J-Frog.

Any title he wants.

And that's the one we do.

Welcome to the show bill hey guys

thank you so much yeah it's weird it depends on the day you know there's um the solution engineering

manager one day solution engineering solution architect that guy you see who does youtube and videos

and does talks on that's the title that's the one to go with right there you know what it fits

really well on a business card oh you. I am all about the business card. Not quite Patrick Bateman material like American Psycho, but you know what I mean? You know, if we're looking for a little bit of the, you know, make sure that the raise lettering, we're all good. Yeah. I one time did get business cards and then they promptly sat on my desk and I think I handed out five of them ever. Well, they make great paperweights. You know that those boxes have a nice heft to them. If you still have paper on your desk, you do that, right? You just put them there and then you stare at them and you pull them out as nostalgia value and you're like, I should really throw this out. And then you're like, I'll take at least a card and you put that away and then you shuck the rest, right?

Just to prove you had a title at some point. That's right. That's right. I think I still have a stack of them in my garage from my previous company or whatever. Just like, I don't want to throw these out. They were cool. I think I have them all messed up somewhere in like some like random location. I'll pull them out and they go, wow, that was weird.

You know, it's like...

Yeah, it's like the basketball cards I have that my mom brought, you know, when I became an adult and my kids found them and they're like, who are all these random basketball players? And I'm like, I also don't know because like there's some B-stream players from like, you know, when I was a kid, it never mounted to anything. but it's who's, you know, you just get randomly distributed cards in the card pack. Like, these are the people you got. These are the comments. Or you can be like me, though, I used to have at one point, when I was a kid, I collected the entire Star Wars top series, like for both Star Wars, Return of the Jedi, Empire Strikes Back. I had them all together, and they were doing a house cleaning, and my brother threw out the entire thing. No. Oh, yeah, all of it. My Millennium Falcon. I still let them, I won't live them down to this day, by the way, man. It's still right here, right now. Do you go on eBay and cry cry or you're okay? I avoid that, man.

Because that would just be like me sobbing a lot.

All right.

Well, we normally start off here, but before we jump into the sort of topic of the day,

we normally kind of start out just talking to our guests and finding out how you got in tech.

And sometimes that's like the first program you wrote. If you have like a memory of like the first computer you got, like whatever, you know, is there like an experience that was just sort of like, yeah, yeah, that that was something I sort of remember as early in my journey. Oh, well, yeah, let's start off with just talking about, you know, I am definitely significantly

older, right? So, I mean, just give an idea, you know, my first computer that I had access to

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