Programming Throwdown Episode 157, Kubernetes with Craig Box. Take it away, Jason. Hey, everybody, here to talk about a really,

really important topic. We've talked about Docker in the past and, you know, containerization.

But one thing that's really important is, how do you run this container? How do you run it at scale?

How do you get these containers to talk in concert with each other? How do you replicate a lot of

these things? And so your Kubernetes is something that Patrick and I both use day to day. I think I

probably have to use it a lot more than Patrick does.

It tends to be more of a cloud thing and less of an embedded thing. But it's extremely,

extremely important being able to do all of that, orchestrate all of that, and know kind of how

that works. It also, there's a large tie-in to these big cloud providers. They do a lot of heavy lifting for you.

And so that makes it kind of a bit of a steep learning curve. And we're extremely fortunate to have Craig Box, VP of Open Source and Community at Armo, and one of the people who is there on day one of Kubernetes

at Google here on this show. So thank you so much, Craig, for coming on the show.

Thank you both for having me.

Cool. And so before we do a deep dive into Kubernetes, why don't you give us a quick background?

You know, what did you study in school uh you know

what happened after that and what sort of the path that led you to being on the you know

initial kind of Kubernetes team yeah so my dad bought home of vick 20 when I was under five I guess

and back in those days obviously it was if you want to play a game,

you get a book out and type the game in. And that never really led to a love of programming

for me is an interesting thing that I found is that as I was moved on through computers and PCs

and so on through my teenage years, I was always interested in making the computer do things and

tying things together

and running bulletin boards and all that kind of thing. But I never really had a love for programming

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