1579: Natasha Helfer's Sex-Communication - One Year Later
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 April 2022
⏱️ 133 minutes
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Summary
John John, Jenn, and special guest Aimee Heffernan as we check in with Natasha Helfer on the one year anniversary of her excommunication from the Mormon church, largely in response to her work as a licensed sex therapist to Mormons and ex-Mormons.
Show Notes:
- Natasha Helfer's Pre-Excommunication reflections on Mormon Stories
- Live Vigil at Natasha's Excommunication
- Natasha's Post-Excommunication Debrief on Mormon Stories
- Ward-less: A Post-Mormon Field Guide podcast with Aimee Heffernan
- "My Official Stance on Masturbation," by Natasha Helfer, August 6, 2012
- "I Am Not Broken," Natasha Parker, Thrive 2019
- "To Young Men Only," Boyd K. Packer's 1976 General Conference talk, in which he uses an extended metaphor comparing male genitals to a "Little Factory" to discourage masturbation
- Natasha's first interview on Mormon Stories, in which she was still afraid to talk openly about masturbation
- Feminist Mormon Housewives
- Natasha interviews Jennifer Finlayson-Fife on Mormon Mental Health podcast
- American Association of Pediatrics' position that masturbation is normative childhood behavior
- The 1982 letter from the First Presidency, calling oral sex "an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice;" this position was later officially reversed, but is still widely believed among members
- "The Lord's Standard of Morality," by Tad R. Callister, Ensign, March 2014
- "Morality? We can do much better than this..." Natasha's response to Callister condemning masturbation as "self-abuse"
- Mormon Mental Health podcast
- "We can all be more civil on LGBT issues, Mormon leader says," by Peggy Fletcher-Stack, Salt Lake Tribune, January 30, 2015
- "Elder Oaks…stop it!" Natasha's response to Dallin H. Oaks on LGBT issues
- "Come Follow Me," Russell M. Nelson, General Conference, April 2019, also known as the "Sad Heaven" talk
- "LDS Church has great power, which it has wielded irresponsibly," A letter to the prophet from a mental health practitioner, Salt Lake Tribune, April 21, 2019
- "Your Divine and Eternal Destiny," Dale G. Renlund addressing the Women's Session of General Conference, April 2022
- Sonia Johnson and Kate Kelly on Mormon Land podcast
- Jennifer Finlayson-Fife discusses Natasha's excommunication on Mormon Land
- Women and Authority: Re-emerging Mormon Feminism by Maxine Hanks
- "Teaching Adolescents from Twelve to Eighteen Years," A Parent's Guide, Ch 5
- Year of Polygamy with Lindsay Hansen Park
- Natasha's new project and website
- Symmetry Solutions
- Mormon Mental Health Association
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast dare I say a special edition of |
| 0:07.3 | Mormon Stories podcast we are here at the one year |
| 0:11.4 | anniversary and I shouldn't be all smiley and cheery about it. Should I I think we can be smiley? |
| 0:17.3 | I don't know about cheery. I think we can be smiley. We are here at the |
| 0:23.6 | little so we are somber and sober. We have our diet coke. That may be pepping us up a little bit. |
| 0:31.6 | We're here at the one year anniversary of the excommunication of our dear friend our colleague |
| 0:39.2 | the beloved the myth the legend. Oh my lamb. Natasha Helfer. And she likes to call it her sex |
| 0:48.4 | communication. That's right. That's exactly what I like to call it. Yeah. It was literally a year |
| 0:55.8 | ago today that I and Clinton Jenny Martin and Janice Bangler and was it Rebecca England and |
| 1:04.8 | Jody England and white and Katie Mount and Kyle Ashworth and many many others many many others |
| 1:18.3 | descended into which it taught Kansas to try and show up for and witness a sad I don't know |
| 1:27.8 | it was a comprehensively sad and tragic day I have no happy memories literally not one happy |
| 1:33.9 | memory and I don't mean to start so dark I don't have a happy memory about that that day. |
| 1:40.9 | Now I would agree even me dancing to queen was not really that happy. It was more like getting |
| 1:47.9 | just my frustrations out. Yeah. So we're here to process that and to honor Natasha and to give |
| 1:56.7 | viewers and listeners maybe even a chance to call in and share their perspectives as well. But |
| 2:04.4 | we're not alone Natasha you and I are not alone. We are not. You're not alone. We are joined for |
| 2:13.9 | the first time by a friend of mine who I've known longer than I've known Natasha. That's crazy. |
| 2:21.6 | But it's her first appearance formally on Mormon Stories podcast. She's one of the founders of |
| 2:28.2 | another Mormon themed podcast that has meant a lot to a lot of people for a long time. It's a podcast |
| 2:34.0 | called Ward Less that no longer is active but is still available. Oh yeah. But it's Amy Heffernin. |
| 2:41.8 | Hey Amy. I'm a first timer. I'm a virgin to the Mormon Stories podcast. |
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