Welcome back to Meathead Hippie podcast. I am your host, Emily Shram, and I am so thrilled that you are here.

I am officially launching 2023 with a podcast on plants with a wonderful plant person, a folk arbalist,

Julia Lyons. I am in my van right now. I hate to say it, you all, but I am watching

the ocean and the sunset. It's like sometimes you just, it just doesn't get more real.

Van life is so fun. It's such an adventure. There's some quirks about it. There's some

moments. There's highs. There's lows. But in this moment, I am incredibly grateful for the freedom that I have.

And if you have questions about van life or you want me to do more podcasts about Van Life. I don't know if I'm really the

expert because I wing this shit so hard, but I would do my best. So you just let me know. Welcome

back to a meat ad-a-a-by podcast. I really, really love today's podcast. I think there's a

misconception about how we have conversation with plants. Or maybe in my head,

I always battle with this like, should I hear them more? Or how do I get more connected? And maybe

that's with everything. Like how am I not doing enough? You know, all these people look so spiritual

and so plant, plant listeners. I don't know.

There's just always this voice in our head that kind of tells us we're not enough. And that's

so part of our conversation with Julie and I today, which is my favorite part is it's a very

open, real, vulnerable conversation. But what I want to say is that plants talk to you in ways that don't really feel human because

obviously they're not and so a really easy example to share with you is I'm doing you can join

in anytime but it's called the four dailies it's a free challenge it's just a way to check off

the boxes for four points, daily piece,

daily minerals, daily water, and daily herbs. And it's just this really simple way to start to

integrate all of these things that I care about. And then you can choose if you want to do a fifth

point. It's very low key. There's nothing really required

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