157: The Role of Genetics in Running Performance
The Running Channel Podcast
The Running Channel
4.8 • 591 Ratings
🗓️ 14 February 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
In episode 157, Sarah, Rick and Andy delve into how much running skill comes from your genetics versus training and hard work. In another universe could Rick have made the Olympics if he'd spent less time in the hot tub or would his genetics stand in his way? How much did genetics play a role in getting Andy to two Olympic Games?
The trio also discuss the half marathon World Record that won't count because of the lead car and whether banking time in a hilly marathon is a good strategy.
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| 1:33.1 | Welcome to the Running Channel podcast with me, Rick Kelsey, |
| 1:36.1 | sub-20-minute 5K runner Sarah Hartley, and Olympian, two-time Olympian, |
| 1:43.2 | and what was a 10-year park run record holder? Was it 12? It was 12, wasn't it? Let's not forget the two years, Andy. Andy Badly. I don't know. I think it might have been 10. 10 or 11. Well, let's call it 12. No one's going to count in anymore. Anyway, lovely to see you, Bo. And to see you, Rick, what are we going to talk about today? Today we're going to talk about the role of genetics in running performance. |
| 2:03.0 | Because Andy and I, we might not be a similar age, but we did grow up in the same area. |
| 2:08.0 | We mingled in the same circles. |
| 2:09.8 | And I have a question, in an alternative universe, right? |
| 2:13.8 | Yeah. |
| 2:14.1 | Say I just got my head down, got into the track, did a little bit less socialising. |
| 2:20.4 | Could I have been standing on that start lying at the Olympics? |
| 2:23.0 | I'm sorry, but I can't picture a world where Andy is sat in a hot tub drinking |
| 2:27.9 | cavi and you're lining up at the 2012 Olympic. |
| 2:32.0 | I sort of weirdly can picture him in those little tiny shorts. |
| 2:35.1 | Oh, short shorts. And a little vest. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we're talking about how much genetics |
| 2:40.0 | affects performance. Yes, sorry, not how much Rick's delusional imagination impacts of performance. |
| 2:45.4 | We're also kind of an unfiltered take on running news and answer your questions. |
| 2:57.8 | Right, let's get you out at the Olympic Stadium and into your marathon training zone. |
| 2:58.4 | How's that going? |
| 2:59.7 | Are you wearing little short shorts for that? |
| 3:01.8 | I've got a delode week this week, nice. |
| 3:02.9 | Right, okay. |
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