This is Popular Front, a podcast focused on the niche details of modern warfare and underreported conflict with me Jake Hanrahan. Today we're speaking to photo journalist Hugh

Kinceller Cunningham. He's going to be talking to us about his time spent on

the ground reporting from four different wars that are currently ongoing in Congo.

Recently everything has got a lot worse particularly the war near the border is very interesting it's very

under reported he's gonna explain to us what is going on if you like what we're

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slash Popular Front or Popular Front. co slash support. Alright Hugh. So the last time we covered Congo on the podcast there was about four

different wars going on at the same time. What's the situation right now? You're

out there I believe things have got particularly worse what's happening well

actually yeah I think how I sort of break it down for people is in about four different

contexts and things are sort of dramatically going off the rails at the moment.

You know, I mean this is sadly like a context in which, you know, in the west it's like, oh Congo always conflict, you know in the west it's like oh Congo always conflict you know always

it's one of these sort of very sort of cliche it stereotypical places and at the

moment that sort of means it kind of blends into background noise you know but at the moment things are you know if people are watching it's dramatically

escalating and I would yeah the four sort of things that are happening there's been a resurgence of war on the border with Congo and Rwanda,

which is a really sort of tense border. There's the resurgence of a rebel group called the M23.

And this is displacing thousands of civilians. It's more

of sort of conventional military fighting each other so civilians aren't necessarily

being targeted but they are being displaced and then the second

yet there's been sort of you know the other was about last month you know there was just some of the

most intense scenes I've ever seen

here which was thousands of people running down from these villages you know these

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