Back in 2012, I was in South Africa and I went to Robin Fowler. That's where Mandela was in prison for 18 of his 27 years in prison.

So I went on the tour to that prison

and then I went to his sale.

And then I saw how tiny it was.

That is in 2012.

And so when the group moved on I stayed there at his sale and I saw

there was a bucket on the floor for him to use as the toilet there was a mat that he

slept on on the concrete floor and that's where he did 18 years 18 years and so at the sale when everybody left I just said a

prayer I said God if I'm ever in this situation,

just please give me the strength that you gave him.

That's all I ask you for.

I'm not asking you to free me, I know like this. Give me the strength that you gave me.

Hello friends and welcome back to the Light Watkins show where I interview ordinary folks just like you and me who have taken extraordinary leaps of faith in the direction of their path, their purpose, or what they've identified with as their mission.

And in doing so, they've been with as their mission and in doing so they've been able to

positively impact and inspire the lives of many other people who've either heard

about their story or who've witnessed them in action or people who've directly benefited from their work.

And this week we have part two of my conversation with my father, attorney Donald v Watkins.

So back in part one, which I recommend listening to in order to get the full context

for this final part of the conversation,

we go through his upbringing in the deep south and the multiple instances of harsh racism that he encountered as a civil rights attorney based out of Montgomery, Alabama in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, and how those experiences helped to shape

his mission of striving for, and I would even go so far to say being obsessed with the

administration of justice for all and that's

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