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155. Ex-Scientologist - Doug Scott Kramer

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Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.4968 Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Doug Kramer was forced into the cult of scientology at nine years old when his father decided it would be a good idea for the family. Today he talks to me about the way that scientology and other cults like it manipulate people into signing up. Doug Scott Kramer links: https://www.youtube.com/c/DazedbutNotConfuzed https://twitter.com/dougscottkramer Andrew Gold links: http://youtube.com/andrewgold1 http://instagram.com/andrewgold_ok http://twitter.com/andrewgold_ok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Don't take that personality test, even if you think it's a joke.

0:03.4

I've seen people that know it's a joke, get locked in that room, have their ruin found,

0:07.6

and sign up for a course.

0:08.6

Dude, I've seen it many, many times.

0:10.4

It's not something to fuck with. Sesa Scientology.

0:16.0

Scientology!

0:17.0

It's Doug Scott Kramer everyone.

0:19.0

Doug was forced into the cult of Scientology at nine years old when his father decided it would be a good idea for the family.

0:26.4

He and his mother had little choice but to be involved. At first he resisted that eventually became a card-carrying member in his 20s with a fervent feel for the

0:38.1

cultish stuff around Scientology. He really got into the depths of it, into its grips. Today Doug talks to me about the way that

0:47.1

sciontology and other cults like it, manipulate people into signing up. From love bombing to

0:52.2

holding back information and the sunk cost

0:56.1

fallacy so you go in so far by the time you've heard all the mad stuff you're already

1:00.0

so deep into the cult that you sort of have to keep going. Doug discusses the cultish

1:05.0

mind control techniques and explains what differentiates a cult from a religion.

1:11.0

Some really fascinating stuff that he says about that actually.

1:13.5

We also have a bit of a debate about atheism because Doug still believes in some spiritual stuff,

1:19.2

and I absolutely do not, but such as my debating style that it's not exactly a heated

1:24.4

argument by any means and as is typical of these kinds of debates neither of us

1:30.0

moved very far from our starting position I had a great time talking to him and will even be coming

1:36.0

on his channel sometime soon to discuss atheism, the exorcist and other intriguing concepts.

1:42.3

Doug has his own YouTube channel where he goes into more detail,

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