meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan

155: Everything You Know About Content Marketing is Wrong, with Des Traynor of Intercom

The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan

Nathan Chan

Marketing, Business, Entrepreneurship

4.8 • 662 Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2017

⏱️ 40 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In 2011, four lads from Dublin were running a successful business that let programers and engineers know when a user encountered a problem with their program. The problem was that none of them were particularly interested in the world of programming errors. Instead, they found their passions centered on why it was so difficult for online businesses to talk to customers. They didn't know it at the time, but they were about to reinvent the concept of content marketing. So Des Traynor and his three co-founders sold their successful business, packed their bags, and moved to sunny California. "We were four Irish founders and basically our previous company, we had already done the bootstrapping thing. ... When we were going through this change of business and this change of approach, we said, 'What's the opposite of running a bootstrapped business off the north side of Dublin?' Well that's come to Silicon Valley and raise a million dollars, and that's what we did," Traynor says. It turned out to be the right move, as the company that now known as Intercom raised more than $160 million in the past six years, building a customer base of over 17,000 customers, and making over $50 million in revenue. Their mission was simple: to make online businesses feel less like talking to a robot and feel more personal instead. The solution to that was to help businesses talk to their customers through their own websites and apps instead of the usual mish-mash of emails, texts, and phone calls. Intercom built its reputation and customer base through the power of content marketing, but in a way that might surprise you. Instead of following the traditional strategy of hiring a content team, focusing on SEO and backlinks, and churning out at as much content as possible, Intercom went in the completely opposite direction and developed a unique content strategy that led their business to go viral within the startup community, while building a beloved brand. "We're not one of those people that do all that black hat stuff. I really, really hate that. We had a recommendation recently to go post on discussions.apple.com and write a piece that links back to your site, and it was just so puke-worthy. I could never get excited about gamifying the Google algorithm and building the business on such a messy, fragile house of cards," Traynor says. Traynor goes in-depth with us in this episode about why the conventional content marketing strategy doesn't work anymore, and how to really get your message across. In this week's episode you will learn: How to move quickly and stay lean while managing an international team Where to find top-tier talent for your startup, no matter where you are A sly way to make your business go viral No to SEO! The biggest mistakes marketers make when using SEO Why you don't need a content marketing team to get half a million page views per post & so much more!

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

This is episode number 155 with Des Trainer of the Founder Podcast.

0:06.2

Discover exactly what it takes to become a successful entrepreneur and what's possible

0:11.3

through entrepreneurship from the greatest minds in business today.

0:15.1

Welcome to the Founder Podcast.

0:17.3

Here's your host, Nathan Chan.

0:25.0

Yeah. Here's your host, Nathan Chan. Hello and welcome to another episode of the founder podcast.

0:29.0

My name's Nathan Chan and I'm the CEO and host of this show.

0:35.5

Now, if you're a new listener, we interview extremely hard to reach founders

0:40.9

that are either number one or two in their industry with the company that they've started

0:46.4

and they're disrupting a marketplace that they serve. And yeah, we've interviewed some of the

0:53.0

greatest entrepreneurs of our generation on this show.

0:56.0

And we also have a magazine and do a ton of other content around entrepreneurship and

1:00.5

startups. So if you're a new listener, welcome. If you're an existing listener, I just want to say

1:06.2

thank you so much for taking the time to listen. And as always, we have an absolute treat. This interview

1:13.6

is with a really, really smart founder, Irish fellow actually. We don't really interview many

1:19.9

people from Ireland. Des, really transparent, vulnerable guy. I loved talking with him,

1:26.4

and he's the founder of a company called

1:27.6

Intercom. We're big fans of Intercom. We're a customer and we use their tool for all sorts of

1:35.2

really, really cool things around user onboarding, but then also just speaking to visitors on

1:42.3

our website. I'll tell you a really cool story. You might find this

1:45.8

interesting. So when we had a sale for one of our new courses that we launched with an instructor

1:52.4

Thorntz Greta, what we did is we put Intercom on the sales page and a lot of people would come on

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Nathan Chan, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Nathan Chan and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.