Hey everybody.

No, I was hitting yes for the record, John.

Oh, okay.

I was like, wait, we're recording.

Welcome to shaken and disturbed everybody.

This is Darren Karp, and I am here, the love of my life, the reason for being John Thrashor, Mama Bear. Oh, I thought for sure you were going to say magic, but that's okay. Oh, I meant magic. Did I see you? Yeah, you did. I meant the cat. Yeah. Let me just say.

Yeah, go ahead. Take your time. Well, I was a little part. Okay, guys, if you want to listen to John, really, John has one thing on me this week. I finally got it. He finally got something on me this week because I'm at my parents' house. So technology is limited. And he finally got me on something. Listen to our NMR, which came out this last week

to listen to him actually have one-uping on me. But you know what? I still look good in my parents

weird lighting of the office. Don't I, John? Look at me. Well, let me tell you something.

You only look good because I have edited you in some capacity in post-production. Okay? This phase? Oh, that beautiful face? Oh, oh. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Well, good to see you. Even in the dim lighting of my parents' house. But welcome to shaken and disturbed everyone. And hi to everyone on Patreon. Hi to everyone on YouTube. This is why he made fun of me because I know that we are on. John, every time we, everyone has to talk about YouTube, we have to say smash that subscribe button. Smash that bell. Smash that subscribe button. Yeah. And guys, listen, I'm kind of off a high from last week with our Tim and Lance episode, right, Johnny Boy?

Yeah, I think I said, I don't know if I said it on the show or if it was with you afterwards,

but it's just really great to chat with other people that do what we do on a consistent basis,

you know, like True Crime podcasting really is its own little world like a small little world of people

and yeah um you know what you guys see what the finished product is that you see on patreon

youtube and uh if you're listening on the show is a lot of behind the scenes work so you know when

i'm when we're chatting with them about how they go about

their research and, you know, you had a great question that we featured in our Instagram

reels and on YouTube shorts about, you know, what have you guys learned? And their response and

that was even just interesting. So it's just cool just to be, you know, in, in cahoots with them. And obviously, as we said, we've known them forever at this point. So it's nice to just catch up. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like in a lot of ways in the true crime world, I feel like we, you and I like grew up, you know, around them in a lot of ways. Yeah, truly. Yeah. What's really interesting to me is kind of just like us, like people who are just

interested in true crime and devote a lot of their time, a lot of their energy, sometimes

their money, you know, other things.

Yeah, definitely.

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