154 - D&C 104-105 CFM - God’s People Tested with Money & Zions Camp - E38B September 15-21

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🗓️ 10 September 2025

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Welcome to Church History Matters Come Follow Me Edition where we are systematically diving into every section of the Doctrine and Covenants throughout the year 2025! In this episode Scott and Casey cover Doctrine & Covenants 104-105, while covering the context, content, controversies and consequences of this important history.

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0:00.0	Hi, Casey. Hi, Scott. We're back and we're covering the second half of section 102 to 105.
0:07.4	A lot to talk about here. And the through line is Zion's Camp. We just recorded a wonderful
0:12.8	conversation with a great historian, Matt Godfrey, who literally wrote the book on Zion's Camp.
0:18.4	And we threw every question we could think of at him,
0:26.8	and he batted a thousand. So look for that coming out around the same time that this is coming out. But what we didn't do with Matt was go through the revelations verse by verse. Matt talked about
0:31.9	the history and brought in all kinds of sources that we haven't thought of. But we still need to
0:36.3	cover these verses of section 104, and especially thought of, but we still need to cover these verses of Section
0:38.3	104 and especially Section 105 that have to do with the ongoing troubles in Missouri and the
0:43.6	March of Zion's camp. He is so fun and such a clear thinker, and I thought he did great at
0:48.9	explaining some of the intricacies and the nuances of Zion's camp. So definitely check that episode out as well.
0:55.8	It's bonus content this week,
0:57.8	Voices of the Restoration content.
0:59.6	So go check that out for sure.
1:01.5	OK, well with that then, Casey,
1:03.5	should we dive into section 104?
1:10.7	Sometimes we think of section 104 is kind of disconnected from the history of what's going on in Missouri with, you know, the expulsion in Jackson County and then this, you know, the discussions about how the Saints and Curtland can help and all that.
1:23.3	And sometimes we set Section 104 aside as kind of a financial section.
1:29.0	But Casey, isn't it a little more embedded in the history than that? It does feel like a detour because Section 104 is primarily a
1:33.9	revelation on church finances. But the reason why the church's finances had to be reorganized,
1:40.0	which is what Section 104 essentially does, is because of this crisis that's ongoing in Missouri.
1:46.8	And so Section 104 is received as Joseph Smith is getting ready to go with Zion's camp to Missouri,
1:52.7	but deals with some really pressing financial matters about how they're going to assist the members in Missouri that have been displaced and how they're
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