#1536 Ten Things: Jefferson and John Marshall
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🗓️ 27 February 2023
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
This week Clay Jenkinson has a conversation with regular guest Lindsay Chervinsky about the first great Chief Justice of the United States John Marshall. Marshall was a Virginia Federalist, persuaded by George Washington to run for Congress and appointed Chief Justice by President John Adams in early 1801. Topics include the mutual distrust of Jefferson and his third cousin Marshall, Marshall's monumental achievement in interpreting the U.S. Constitution, Marshall and slavery, and Marshall and Native American sovereignty. Plus, Lindsay talks about her new book on how Americans have mourned their Presidents.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, everyone, in our podcast listenership. |
| 0:03.6 | I'm Clay Jenkinson, our good friend, David Swenson, is taking a break. |
| 0:08.1 | This week on The Jefferson Hour, I talk with Dr. Lindsey Chervinsky about |
| 0:12.2 | ten things concerning Chief Justice John Marshall. |
| 0:15.8 | John Marshall was a Virginian like Jefferson, a plantation owner, a lawyer. |
| 0:19.8 | In fact, he studied under George Wuth, the same political genius who tutored |
| 0:24.2 | Thomas Jefferson in the law. Marshall was a Federalist. |
| 0:27.6 | Jefferson, of course, a small, are Republican. |
| 0:30.1 | They couldn't like each other. Jefferson didn't like what he called the loose |
| 0:34.2 | lax lounging manner of Marshall who seemed to frequent taverns. |
| 0:38.3 | Jefferson, of course, was a loof in his fortress of solitude. |
| 0:41.8 | At Monticello, they didn't like each other ideologically or politically either. |
| 0:45.3 | And yet, John Marshall issued the oath of office to Jefferson on the 4th of March 181. |
| 0:51.0 | It's always fun to talk with Lindsey because she brings such a fresh |
| 0:53.8 | perspective to all these things. And she has a new book by the way that she edited |
| 0:57.3 | and wrote the introduction to about America's morning, |
| 1:00.5 | its fallen presidents. It came out in February. |
| 1:03.2 | And I think it's going to be a really interesting book in the chapter on Jefferson's death |
| 1:08.0 | and the way he was mourned and memorialized was written by a Jefferson descendant |
| 1:13.6 | from the Sally Heming side of the question. So that is certainly something that |
| 1:17.9 | brings a fresh perspective to the death of Jefferson. |
| 1:20.4 | And literally could not have been published 15 or 20 years ago. |
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