#1535 Forgotten Founder
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🗓️ 21 February 2023
⏱️ 54 minutes
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This week Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Ellis answer a listener question comparing the events of January 6th with the Boston Tea Party and go on to discuss an almost forgotten founding father - Henry Laurens. Laurens was a merchant, slave trader, and rice planter from South Carolina who became a political leader during the Revolutionary War. He was captured at sea by the British and imprisoned for several years in the Tower of London.
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| 0:00.0 | Good day podcast listeners as always. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen this week. |
| 0:06.8 | A great conversation between Clay Jenkinson and Joseph Alice. The program begins with a tough |
| 0:13.7 | question from a listener Gary Gilbert's about how are the insurrectionists of January 6th |
| 0:20.7 | any different than the insurrectionists of the Boston Tea Party. And then the two of you go on |
| 0:26.2 | to have a very interesting conversation about a little known figure Henry Lawrence. It was a great |
| 0:32.0 | conversation. I thought so too David you know Henry Lawrence is a figure that my daughter Katherine |
| 0:37.2 | is doing some research about she's writing her dissertation at Oxford University on the Tower of |
| 0:42.4 | London. And what I mentioned that he was the only known American who's ever been in the tower. |
| 0:47.3 | She decided to write an article about it and Joe Ellis the great Joe Ellis has read her article |
| 0:54.7 | offered some suggestions for revision and he's going to try to help her get it placed in an important |
| 1:00.0 | American journal. So that's what what an honor for my daughter to have to be mentored in some |
| 1:08.2 | ways by the great historian Joseph Ellis. So I'm so looking forward to all that she's going to be |
| 1:14.1 | doing some guest hosting on the Thomas Jefferson hour in the next few months David. So she'll |
| 1:19.5 | finish her dissertation probably in June or July and then she will get on the job market to see |
| 1:26.6 | what that looks like. That's exciting. Yeah I kind of wondered today why we didn't include her in |
| 1:32.4 | this discussion at maybe at a future time. Well she and I did one on Lawrence a few months ago |
| 1:38.0 | and so I asked her if she wanted to be part of this and she said no she was just going to |
| 1:41.7 | take Joe's suggestions extremely seriously on her article. So the tower is just such an amazing |
| 1:48.1 | subject. You know we think of it as a menagerie. It's also the British mint. It's the it's the |
| 1:53.3 | armory. Well didn't she kind of get started and all that by Francis Bacon and his time in the tower. |
| 1:58.6 | Francis Bacon and Walter Raleigh were what she worked on at St Andrews University up in Scotland |
| 2:04.0 | as doing her MA and then at Oxford her supervisor said no why don't you write a social history |
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