So, money episode 1532, founder Mariam Nafisi on Remaking Yourself, Navigating Mace Ayers,

and the Future of Blockchain and AI.

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Welcome to So Money.

Having everything wiped out when you're 40 and starting 100% from zero,

that was sort of their life and their stress, and then I was dealing with the school stress.

So, it was tumultuous, I would say, but it was a very good learning experience because

for me, I just went to my strength and stuck with my strength, which at that point was really my

intellectual strength. My best friend was my, I was thinking, okay, I'm going to invest in this

brain, you know, and the brain of this brain is going to get me out of this situation. That's

how I thought about it, which was, you know, there's one thing that this is one thing I can control.

It's my brain. Welcome to So Money, everybody. I'm Farnoosh Tarabi. We're welcoming today guest

Mariam Nafisi. She's a veteran entrepreneur who has founded and scaled successful companies,

including Eve.com, the world's first online cosmetics retailer, minted the online marketplace

of premium design goods created by independent artists and designers, and Tonic XYZ, a curated

fine art gallery focused on blockchain art. Today, Mariam is the founder and managing partner of

Heretic Ventures, the San Francisco based venture studio that found companies at the intersection

of culture, commerce, and creators. On our show, we talk about how Mariam was born to

Iranian and Chinese parents, how her childhood in diverse countries shaped her perspective.

She talks about overcoming a lot of adversity when her family fled Iran during the 1979

revolution and faced challenges upon arriving in the US. On the show, Mariam shares her tactics

for closing deals, offers advice for those of us seeking venture capital, and because of her

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