1532: A Father & Daughter Mormon Journey - Mark & Zelle Phillips
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 13 January 2022
⏱️ 275 minutes
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Summary
Mormon Stories listeners are in for a treat today as we’re joined by Mark Phillips and his daughter Zelle as they share their family’s fascinating Mormon journey. Mark is a clinical and counseling psychologist by profession who has spent part of his career working in LDS Family Services and was first inspired on his mission as a trainer to become a psychologist when working with difficult companions. Zelle discusses with us what it was like as a missionary during Covid, coming home early, coming out to her family, and coming into her own authentic self. A few of the themes we cover in this episode are around how growing up in the US Midwest and South shapes Mormon experiences, focusing on what’s inside instead of outside appearances, and coming to terms with Mormon truth claims as a family. We know you’ll love this amazing father-daughter duo and enjoy listening to Carah as host and Gerardo as co-host on this episode!
Show Notes:
- Mark's Facebook post explaining why they left the church
- Thrive Unite
- Mormon Stories interview with Gerardo Sumano
- Jesus the Christ by James E. Talmadge
- "The case of a fallen mission president: When the Mormon Church promptly removed a leader who 'deceived and victimized' young female missionaries," by Peggy Fletcher-Stack, Salt Lake Tribune, April 26, 2018
- Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman
- Saints Vol.1 published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
- The Joseph Smith Papers
- March 2021 Africa Area Devotional, in which Jeffrey Holland inadvertently admits that the rest of the world is always ahead of the Church
- "Be One: A Celebration of the Revelation on the Priesthood," the Church's June 2018 celebration on the 40th anniversary of letting black people in the temple
- "Issues and Ideas Leading People Away from the Gospel," a 2015 proprietary Church graphic released by MormonLeaks
- "The Ally Within," John Dehlin's TED Talk
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Mormon Stories Podcast. |
| 0:04.8 | I am your host for today, Cara Burrell. |
| 0:07.9 | I am not John DeLynn. |
| 0:09.6 | John has some family in town, so he asked if I would fill in and writing side-car as |
| 0:14.8 | my co-host. |
| 0:15.8 | We have the wonderful and talented Harado Sumonau. |
| 0:19.6 | Hey Harado. |
| 0:20.6 | Hey Cara. |
| 0:21.6 | Thanks so much for joining me. |
| 0:22.6 | If you guys remember Harado does our lighting and our sound. |
| 0:26.6 | We also co-hosts. |
| 0:30.6 | Usually we'll see him more in front of a computer screen hosting things that we do on our |
| 0:32.1 | more of our live streams like with Simon Satherton episodes and he's really good at producing |
| 0:37.7 | a lot of other great Mormon stories content. |
| 0:40.1 | This is the first time that he's ever done this little co-host thing with me. |
| 0:43.3 | So I'm so grateful that you're here, Harado. |
| 0:45.9 | Yeah. |
| 0:46.9 | I'm happy to be here. |
| 0:48.1 | This is a pretty interesting story today. |
| 0:49.9 | Yeah. |
| 0:50.9 | And I'm really glad you guys will understand why in a minute why I'm glad that Harado is |
| 0:54.3 | here for this one. |
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