Good day, Thomas Jefferson Hour podcast listeners, and as always, thank you so much for listening

and thank you so much for supporting the show. And I'll take the week off from doing a hard

pitch. But if you do want to learn more about the Jefferson Hour, go to Jeffersonhour.com.

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We don't take any neither claim or I take anything personally from this. It's maintenance and

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questions for Clay from Mr. Jefferson or just suggestions. And I've said this before and I

swear to it, it's true. I read every piece of email that comes in and file them away. In fact,

I think we may answer some questions next week. But with that, pretty fun show this week. Do you

want to set it up, Clay? Yes, I believe you said that I ranted. But I met this wonderful man, Tom.

Yeah. And we were on a coach in France. We went on this cultural tour of France with 25 people.

And we went to Paris and we went to Neem. And we went to Nice. And then we were on the canal

to Medi and so on and so forth. It was fabulous. And one day he said, I have an idea for a program

for you. And so he laid it out and I said, yes, do send me the email. And I promise you will do

the program. It's a great idea. So here we are. So thanks to Tom Bergen for this lovely suggestion

and people send in more. We'd love to do programs that people suggest. So the question was,

what are Jefferson's core principles? And he also, I think his own mind was sort of playing them

out in other world leaders and saying, you know, where does Churchill fit in this and where does

Abraham Lincoln fit in this and so on. And that's an interesting part of this too.

Jefferson had certain qualities that I think nobody else has had. A kind of zen-like humility

for one thing. But he also was a passionate believer in human possibility. So if you take the kind

of silly rhetoric of our political culture off the table and really say, who amongst us has a

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