152. "A War on Children": A Generation in Gaza at Risk (James Elder)

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

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🗓️ 7 September 2025

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Why is the humanitarian situation in Gaza the worst that James Elder has ever seen? What does the process of rebuilding Gaza look like? How do the people working on the ground not lose hope? UNICEF spokesperson James Elder joins Alastair and Rory to answer all these questions and more. To donate to UNICEF UK's Gaza appeal visit unicef.uk/gaza-podcast. £30 could help provide life-saving therapeutic food for a child for 3 weeks. Visit HP.com/politics to find out more. To save your company time and money, open a Revolut Business account today via www.revolut.com/rb/leading, and add money to your account by 31st of December 2025 to get a £200 welcome bonus or equivalent in your local currency. Feature availability varies by plan. This offer’s available for New Business customers in the UK, US, Australia and Ireland. Fees and Terms & Conditions apply. For US customers, Revolut is not a bank. Banking services and card issuance are provided by Lead Bank, Member FDIC. Visa® and Mastercard® cards issued under license. Funds are FDIC insured up to $250,000 through Lead Bank, in the event Lead Bank fails. Fees may apply. See full terms in description. For Irish customers, Revolut Bank UAB is authorised and regulated by the Bank of Lithuania in the Republic of Lithuania and by the European Central Bank and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland for conduct of business rules. For AU customers, consider PDS & TMD at revolut.com/en-AU. Revolut Payments Australia Pty Ltd (AFSL 517589). TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: [email protected] Social Producer: Harry Balden Video Editor: Harry Swan + Charlie Rodwell Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Nicole Maslen Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Thanks for listening to The Restis Politics. Sign up to the Restis Politics Plus. To enjoy ad-free listening,
0:04.9	receive a weekly newsletter, join our members chat room and gain early access to live show tickets.
0:09.4	Just go to therestispolities.com. That's the restispolics.com.
0:13.1	I've seen more children with the wounds of war, Alistair in Gaza, than any of the other 50 countries I've been to with UNICEF.
0:21.6	What's it like practically for agencies and NGOs on the ground?
0:24.6	It's the most dangerous place, as we know, in terms of numbers of UN workers killed.
0:28.8	Every time I go back, every time, particularly this last time in June, Rory, everyone is thinner.
0:33.9	Early on in Lister, we talked about this as being indiscriminate.
0:36.5	It's not a word we use lightly. We warned of starvation of food would be continually denied and was blockade, blockade.
0:43.4	We repeated that there were just no proof of evidence of aid diversion, systematic, meaningful
0:48.5	aid diversion. We were saying it and we weren't listened to. We can't be neutral on facts.
0:52.6	If I see a child starving, I have to say so. When a government's accused of systematic breaches of international humanitarian
0:57.4	law, it's a mistake to always have to quote them and therefore balance the story.
1:01.6	What's actually happening that we don't see? You'll always hear this idea that as many trucks
1:08.2	can come in as are needed. Okay, first of that, that's just demonstrably false.
1:12.0	The responsibility for facilitating aid is with Israel. A girl or a boy has been killed every single
1:17.5	hour in Gaza since that horrific attack on the 7th October, every single hour.
1:23.3	This episode is sponsored by HP. Now, Rory, I hear that Windows 10 is finally being put out to pasture this year.
1:31.7	It is, and something pretty relevant for you, Alistair, given what I've seen as some of your technology.
1:36.2	It's going on October the 14th, to be exact. And after that, Microsoft is going to stop supporting some of those old laptops of yours.
1:43.2	No updates, no security patches.
1:45.0	So if you were still using it or a business was still using Windows 10,
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