1519: Joseph Smith’s Egyptian Grammar and Alphabet

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 17 December 2021

⏱️ 261 minutes

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Join John Dehlin and Radio Free Mormon as we speak with Dan Vogel about his new book, “ Book of Abraham Apologetics: A Review and Critique” published by Signature Books.

Said to have been dictated by Joseph Smith as a translation of an ancient Egyptian scroll purchased in Kirtland, Ohio, in 1835, the Book of Abraham may be Mormonism’s most controversial scripture. Decades of impassioned discussion began when about a dozen fragments of Smith’s Egyptian papyri, including a facsimile from the Book of Abraham, were found in the New York Metropolitan Museum in 1966. The discovery solved a mystery about the origin of the Egyptian characters that appear in the various manuscript copies of the Book of Abraham from 1835, reproduced from one of the fragments. Some LDS scholars devised arguments to explain what seemed to be clear evidence of Smith’s inability to translate Egyptian. In this book, Dan Vogel not only highlights the problems with these apologetic arguments but explains the underlying source documents in revealing detail and clarity.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I am your host,
0:04.5	Dr. John DeLin. It is December 17th, 2021. And today I am so excited for a very special
0:14.4	Mormon Stories podcast episode. We are broadcasting live from Mormon Stories Studios in Holiday,
0:19.8	Utah. And today we are so pleased, so honored to be talking about a relatively brand new
0:28.0	book that came out recently. And the book is called Book of Abraham Apologetics, a review and
0:37.0	critique by the one the only, probably I would say the number one living Joseph Smith scholar,
0:46.1	that's my personal opinion, that's Dan Vogel. And we, many of you will know the late, the great
0:54.7	Dr. Robert Rittner came on Mormon Stories within the past year or two and did like a 12 or 13-hour
1:02.8	epic series on Joseph Smith's Book of Abraham and the Egyptian Papyrus, etc. And at the time,
1:11.3	I was pleased to have the also one, the only, the most handsome, intelligent and most funny
1:18.8	Mormon-themed podcaster on the planet, Radio Free Mormon. And we have Radio Free Mormon back
1:27.6	to give us another assist with today's episode, Radio Free Mormon. It's so good to have
1:33.5	you joining us today. Thank you so much, Dr. John DeLin. Yes, I'm a triple threat.
1:38.8	You are. And we all try to hold your water and we'll try today.
1:43.6	Okay, well, I'll try not to take that in a suggestive way. Yeah, so, so we also are so thrilled to
1:53.6	have with us streaming live from Ohio, right? Right, Dan Vogel? The, the Dan Vogel. And let me unmute
2:04.6	you, Dan. Dan, welcome back. Welcome back to Mormon Stories podcast, Dan Vogel. I'm glad to be
2:11.8	here. Glad to be with you guys. I hope we can talk about the Book of Abraham and associated
2:18.8	documents. Kind of fell in where Robert Rittner didn't really touch on because he was focusing on
2:27.1	the Egyptian manuscripts, the, the proprietary, and I'll be focusing on the English text that was
2:34.6	produced while Justice Smith was translating to produce the Book of Abraham. Yeah, yeah. There's
2:42.4	a lot of discussion within, let's just say, learned Mormonism, progressive Mormonism, post-Mormonism,
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