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Mormon Stories Podcast

1512: Thriving After Mormon Electroshock Torture - Nate Winterton

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2021

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

A strong trigger warning for the following episode for discussions around conversion therapy, descriptions of torture, anorexia, and suicide. Mormon Stories is honored to have conversion therapy survivor, suicide survivor, and LGBT+ advocate Nate Winterton on to tell their harrowing story. If you thought the days of Mormon electroshock torture were relics of the past, Nate recounts what they endured at the hands of an LDS “therapist” as recently as 2016. Growing up with enormous health challenges, Nate recognized feelings of same-sex attraction early on in their childhood.

We discuss Nate’s staunch commitment to the Mormon faith, anorexia while serving a mission, and Nate’s decision to confide in a bishop about their feelings for men, leading Nate to a house and a therapist that would change the course of their life.

Please practice self-care as you listen to this episode as we highlight the unfortunate reality that the practice of conversion therapy and torture to change the sexual orientation of gay Mormons continues still today.

**Trigger warning on this episode***

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host, Dr. John Delin. It is November 21st

0:06.9

2021 it happens to be trans awareness week and

0:11.5

we are super super honored and excited to have with us today Nate Winterton on Mormon Stories podcast

0:19.3

Hey Nate. Hi John. Thanks for having me. I'm excited. Yeah, Nate is an Instagram force

0:25.7

You're also on TikTok and I'm sure lots of other platforms what happened this week makes me believe in sort of a

0:33.2

Secular Holy Ghost or somehow we have been working with Nate for months to have Nate on

0:39.2

Mormon Stories podcast and various things have made it so it got scheduled for this week

0:44.2

But what you'll hear about Nate's story Nate's Mormon story is all about Nate's story growing up and

0:50.4

Serving your mission and being in the church and also dealing with what was described to Nate as same sex attraction and

0:57.7

That sort of thing Nate identifies as gender non-binary Nate uses they then pronouns

1:03.7

So there's going to be a lot of really important storytelling today

1:07.9

But one of the things that was that was most kind of alarming and shocking about Nate's story is that

1:14.1

Nate did experience electroshock therapy as an attempt to change their sexual orientation about four or five years ago and

1:22.7

Nate was referred to electroshock therapy by their bishop and I'm using they then pronouns because as

1:30.4

As someone who identifies as gender non-binary Nate uses they then pronouns and the reason why invoked

1:36.4

Secular Holy Ghost is because we just this week

1:39.8

Happened to do an episode on downhate jokes his recent comments at the University of Virginia where

1:46.8

Elder Oaks claimed that during Elder Oaks's administration no electroshock therapy took place while

1:52.6

Elder Oaks was president of BYU which we know is absolutely false and untrue

1:57.4

We covered that with Kyle Ashworth and Harado and Colin O'Donovan just a few days ago

2:02.5

But it was like miracle of miracles

2:04.2

What are the chances that we would have a guest on Mormon stories podcast the same week that Elder Oaks

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