Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. This is a special

Christmas edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I am your host, Dr. John DeLand. It's November

30th, 2021. Today we have a very special episode for you. We are talking about Christmas

after a faith crisis or a Mormon faith crisis. And we are joined in studio as part of our

gift of the Mormon faith crisis slash thrive series. The one the only Marguerite DeLand,

my sweetheart. Hello, Marguerite DeLand. Hello. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having

me. I am so delighted that you wanted to come share with us your Christmas wisdom because

there are so many people after a faith crisis that are like, what do we do about holidays?

What do we do about Christmas? And you, because you've been out this for 10 or 15 or 20 years,

you've settled into a really nice approach to holidays and Christmas that I think those

who are looking to fill that hole can really benefit from. So thank you for being willing

to come and share this with us. Oh, well, I hope so. And I hope that's true and I hope

if it's not entirely true that at minimum people feel seen and supported. Yeah. It's the

season. Yeah. Yeah. We are also super excited to have with us as co-hosts

and as partner, Carabarale in Christmas sweater. Oh, this is just my regular normal everyday

fashion. What are you talking about? Oh, oh, oh, very Christmas.

Marguerite was saying earlier, sometimes the holidays can just be a real downer. So let

this sweater come into your eyeballs and just fill you with Christmas chair. And if you're

listening on audio, run over to the YouTube video real quick and then run back. I love

it. All right, great to have you, Kara. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, John. Merry Christmas,

everyone. All right. We're also joined in our live stream, both on YouTube and on Facebook

with listeners. We really hope to incorporate your chats and comments. Kara will be monitoring

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