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The Al Franken Podcast

151: Saturday Night Live Writer & Producer Jim Downey

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4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Al & Jim On How They Tried to Reward the Audience for Knowing Stuff but Not Punish Them for Not

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, we've got a great one today. You know, for a change. Jim Downey is with me.

0:10.4

Who's Jim Downey? In my mind, the greatest writer in the history of S&L. That's because I work with Jim for 14 seasons,

0:19.2

and Jim went on to write for many seasons more. And I don't know the

0:24.6

writers who came after my time at the show. I mean, John Mullaney did, some other others, too,

0:30.6

who are great writers. But Jim and I wrote a lot of the political stuff on the show during

0:36.9

our time together there, and so did

0:39.7

others, of course. But in this, we discuss how we approached our writing for a live

0:45.5

sketch comedy show, where you can comment on that week's events, using great sketch

0:51.7

artists like Dan Aykroyd and Phil Hartman and Dana Carvey to play the president.

0:57.0

Or if on a Thursday, a surgeon general, Joycelin Elder, said we should teach masturbation in our schools,

1:06.0

you can have Ellen Claighorn speak directly to camera to comment on that. That's what you can do with a live sketch show.

1:14.6

Jim had a motto for the political sketches that we wrote that went something like this.

1:20.6

Reward people for knowing stuff, but don't punish them for not knowing stuff.

1:28.0

Well, after I left, Jim wrote the Bush-Gore debate sketch,

1:32.4

the one where Will Ferrell as W.

1:35.9

summed up his campaign with strategery.

1:39.7

George W. Bush had never said strategyry.

1:42.0

That was Jim.

1:43.3

And you'll hear me make the case that

1:45.3

Daryl Hammond's gore, and Jim basically taught Daryl, his gore. And Daryl, by the way, one of the

1:52.1

great impressionists ever. But I make the case that that sketch elected Bush, who won by a little

1:59.9

over 500 votes in Florida.

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