#151: Elon vs Trump: Leadership Lessons From a Twitter War // Next Level Pros Podcast

The Founder Podcast

Chris Lee

Business, Entrepreneurship

5 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Next Level Pros! In this explosive episode, we dive deep into the public feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, uncovering critical lessons about leadership, ego management, and healthy communication. Whether you're a business owner, team leader, or aspiring entrepreneur, this episode will transform how you handle disagreements and build high-trust organizational cultures.

Highlights:

"Your ego is the guard dog that's been with you since you were two or three years old, and its self-appointed job is to make you feel safe."

"Check your egos at the door."

"To the degree that you are passionate about something, to that same degree you tend to be attached to it."

"Real leaders understand how to work with both strengths and weaknesses."

Timestamps:

00:00 Elon Musk and Donald Trump's Feud: Initial Context and Reactions

02:27 Handling Disagreements in Leadership

05:07 The Role of Ego in Leadership

12:46 Building a Culture of Trust and Conflict Resolution

Practical Strategies for Managing Ego and Conflict

13:18 The Impact of Ego on Organizational Dynamics

17:28 The Role of Passion and Attachment in Leadership

23:11 The Importance of Preemptive Communication in Leadership

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Today we are diving into the explosive feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump on X.
0:05.8	What can two of the most influential and controversial leaders teach us about handling disagreements,
0:12.6	managing egos, and building a culture of trust?
0:15.4	Let's unpack the drama and find the golden nuggets of leadership wisdom hidden in the chaos.
0:20.4	The find the golden nuggets of leadership wisdom hidden in the cave.
0:26.6	So it has been a wild one over the last week with Trump and Elon.
0:30.6	You got two of the world's most influential people.
0:34.6	I mean, richest man of the world, president of the United States,
0:38.9	entrepreneur, crazy man, a little genius. Some might say the orange man.
0:47.2	Possibly an alien, possibly an alien, possibly a time traveler. If you follow many of the
0:53.1	crazy conspiracy theories or whatnot.
0:55.7	I'm right on it.
0:57.0	Uh-huh.
0:57.1	Dude, there's a crazy one.
0:58.7	There's like a Baron Trump from like the 1980, 1800s or something crazy.
1:04.1	But obviously, so there's been some madness going on, right?
1:07.3	These guys have been completely aligned.
1:08.8	You had Elon that was backing the whole
1:10.9	campaign, right? I mean, literally paying people to pledge their allegiance to go in and voting
1:17.5	for Trump, right? Giving away a million dollar prizes in Pennsylvania and different things.
1:22.2	The Joe Rogan endorsement was arguably one of the biggest game changers of the campaign. Like,
1:26.6	in the final hour.
	...

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