All right. Welcome everyone back to dissecting popular IT nerds. Today we have Dr. Eric Hoffman on the show, Doctor. So that must mean something. I mean, it must mean you did a lot of school or something like that. What's, what are we got, PhD or how are you doctor?

Yeah, PhD. It's, it's definitely a lot of school. A lot of school, a lot of research, a lot of writing.

My, I have a friend, my friends here from, actually actually it's my son-in-law's brother who has like an

amazing, amazing story because both of them came over from Yemen, you know, like years ago

and come from, like, you know, they wouldn't call their family poor they're like we're rich because

they're a family that's together and they've always been together and they've always had everything

done everything together so they're like rich from that standpoint from any american standpoint you're

like no that is dirt poor that's poorer than the poorest in america and just how they actually

got over here is and and how hard they studied and how their father

always pushed them to study and study is just amazing.

And anyways, his brother came from Arizona to visit and he's finishing up a PhD.

And when he's, when I say, how much longer do you got?

You got a year.

He's like, it's not like that. He's like, it's like a year and a half maybe two and a half years it all depends on on you know how fast you can do this and whether other people approve this and you know

defense something and all that type of stuff. So it's definitely difficult.

So I guess congratulations on getting through that and a lot of respect there for that.

I appreciate it. Yeah, it is it is not a clear timeline at all.

Like so you may you may graduate one month from when you thought you would or you may take another

three years after that because, you know, the dissertation writing process is not clear.

It is not clear.

And it's, it's all up to how fast you can get it done, how well you can write, how well you can articulate,

and maybe, maybe they'll like you enough to make you, they'll let you get through, maybe.

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