He has to land in the Caribbean because he's having mechanical problems with the plane and he ends up end over and flipping the plane down the runway. It explodes in a fireball.

I don't think you can enjoy your free lobster and shrimp cocktail knowing that your life depends on the guy who keeps crashing planes and getting caught by other people.

And that's on their side. On our side. Let me see. Criminal criminal, not ours. Not trustworthy. Okay.

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worse case. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today in the studio is...

Hi everybody. It's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor Jim. We're back together. The band is back together. We're in the studio in LA in the same place.

With one of our favorite and fan favorite guests. Hi, I'm Tim Clemente, Jim's brother, former police officer, former FBI agent, counterterrorism agent, now writer and producer here at XG Productions.

Fantastic. I mean, I'm feeling a little bit ladies out there in our listening audience. I'm feeling a little bit outnumbered here. Not only do I have two guys, which happens all the time, but it's two Clementes. That's an unusual situation, Jim. I don't know if I can handle it.

Not here at XG Productions. We are Clemente Rich at XG Productions.

That is accurate. But we're very glad to have you Tim. Really appreciate you spending some of your very tight schedule with us because our listeners literally clamor when is Tim Clemente coming back with another story.

So I corralled you. You did. And here you are. You guys should have seen what I had to do yesterday. Like Tim, we need you on the podcast. He's like, I don't know. And I'm like Tim, we need you on the podcast. I don't like you guys. I mean, it was really tough.

Well, Francie, you corralling people. That's pretty much every day thing. Yes, every every hour, really. But so here we are.

So Tim, where were you in your career when this particular case you're thinking of occurred?

I was about a week into my FBI special agent career, just graduated from the FBI Academy.

Okay. And so that was after how many years as police officer?

Just over three and a half years with the St. Louis Police Department before I came into the FBI. So it was 1995 when I got into the FBI Academy in July of that year, July 23rd as a matter of fact.

And then this case that I'm going to talk about began in November of that year.

Like I said, a week after I graduated from the Academy.

Okay, do you remember what you were doing specifically when this case came to you?

I was assigned to the International Narcotic Squad in the Washington Field Office of the FBI.

And one of the first things I had to do was organize an OSIDF task force meeting.

Okay. Any time you use all those letters in combination, you got to step back and tell our listeners what's an OSIDF task force?

OSIDF is organized crime drug enforcement task force. So it's a federal task force set up by the federal government, primarily through the FBI and DEA,

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