Hi, this is Julie Slatery and thanks for joining me for job with Julie.

And today's conversation at the coffee shop is with my good friend from New Zealand, Tim Siserich.

And I'm going to be talking with Tim about the whole 50 Shades of Grey phenomenon.

This is coming up again, and now that we have a new movie being released,

and Tim and I are going to talk about the impact of 50 Shades of Gray and probably present an angle that you've never heard before.

So I hope you enjoy the show.

Well, listeners to Job with Julie know our passion about what's been happening in culture over the last few years with 50 Shades of Gray.

Right.

And what the culture calls mommy porn.

Right.

And Tim, you are one of the few men in the world who has red 50 Shades of Gray.

I didn't tell you that so you could tell the world.

Well, I just did. I'm sorry.

You're all about authenticity.

So why did you read it?

Well, it's funny because I, for the longest time, I would pick up a Christian book and I'd read it, and I'd formulate an opinion based on that. And when I heard you were writing a book about 50 Shades Gray, I thought, I'm going to read this book. But before I read Julie's book and form my opinion based on that, I need to know what she's talking about. So I picked up the first one. I didn't realize when I bought it that it was three books.

I didn't know anything about it, to be honest with you. It was three books and I bought all three of them in the thing.

But yes, I have read it. And what did you think?

It's interesting. I, there's a couple of of things and I have to be careful because I'm not

endorsing people read it because there's some very real issues that that are raised in

it that cause people a lot of pain I read it as a novel I saw it as novel, I didn't see it as a social commentary, and maybe

that was naive of me, but I saw something to me that actually I saw almost as a redemptive

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