Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Gale. Joining me today is Lincoln

Project Senior Advisor and host of LPTV's The Breakdown, Tara Setmare. Tara, thanks for

joining me. Always a pleasure. Also joining me today is Lincoln Project Co-Founder, author

of Everything Trump Touches Dies, and co-host of LPTV's The Breakdown. Rick Wilson. Rick, thanks

for coming. Hey Reed, hey Tara, great to be here. So today I want to talk about a couple

things. I want to get to what should still be top of mind for so many of us who worry

about American democracy, which is the events of January 6th, the insurrection, the sacking

of the Capitol, and now how Congress, both Republicans and Democrats are wrestling with

how to contend with that. But first I want to talk about what is really

making some news in Washington and probably state capitals and probably corporate headquarters

around the country is that a number of very large companies who in the wake of January

6th said that they would no longer give two members of Congress who had voted against

certifying the electoral vote count on January 6th have now quietly started breaking that

pledge and giving money not only to members of Congress but really through backdoor and

sub-Rosaways, which is giving to the committees whether or not it's the Republican study committee

which is a group of very conservative members on the Hill, the National Republican Congressional

Committee, the National Republican Senateorial Committee, and thinking nobody would figure

it out. Now the thing about all of these organizations is that they are either led by or filled

with members of both the House and Senate who have planned on themselves firmly in this

edition caucus, the stop the steel caucus, the let me go tomorrow, Lago and bend the

need of Trump caucus. And so Rick, from your perspective, like should we be surprised

by this? You know, read nothing surprises me anymore about how low the former Republican

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