Anjambhasa with Charles Spicer, the author of Coffee with Hitler, the untold story of the

amateur spies who tried to civilize the Nazis.

The war spills out across Europe, across Asia, around the world.

The catastrophe, the deaths of tens of millions of people, the brutality and the sadism, but

the war is ended.

And the Nuremberg trials are began.

The Unribentrop is captured.

During is captured and Hess is in custody has been since July of 1940.

Hitler commits suicide, Hitler of course committed suicide.

But the trial at Nuremberg is a first draft telling of who was responsible and how guilty.

And Charles spends time with it and we will too, because there are revelations at the

trial that are important to understand the historical record as presented afterwards.

This is the three men who are especially in the witness box together, Ribbentrop, Gering

and Hess.

Charles writes they all had good, were more one records, but have all participated in

some fashion in the brutality.

They will all be convicted, there is not a doubt of their guilt.

And yet we begin with Fun Ribbentrop.

You emphasize Charles, how he looks to have had a nervous breakdown because he let himself

go, he let us sell go, and he was in despair.

He in the witness box was you characterized him as muddled, but he wanted to call a lot

of witnesses, including our principles, to explain what, what was his thinking, what

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