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The Realignment

149 | Spencer Ackerman: How the War on Terror Broke America

The Realignment

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2021

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Spencer Ackerman, writer of the Forever Wars Substack, Reign of Terror: How the 9/11 Era Destabilized America and and Produced Trump, and contributing editor at The Daily Beast joins The Realignment to discuss the post-9/11 era, the legacy of the War on Terror, and the Biden administration’s plans to withdraw from Afghanistan in September.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Mars from Saga here, welcome back to the Realignment.

0:03.3

You look at what Biden is doing with allegedly withdrawing from Afghanistan.

0:14.4

Yes, the troop withdrawal will happen.

0:17.4

But if you listen to General McKenzie, if you listen to Secretary Austin, if you listen

0:22.4

to the security apparatus, as well as those in the administration and in Congress who identify

0:28.9

themselves with that apparatus, they talk about how very willing they will be to continue

0:36.2

surveilling and bombing Afghanistan.

0:38.9

That is not a departure from the war on terror.

0:41.3

That's the war on terror.

0:43.0

It's just not pursued at 30,000 feet.

0:45.2

It's pursued perhaps more at 10,000 feet.

0:47.8

But the wheels on that plane don't touch the ground.

0:49.9

And as long as that happens, we're going to be locked into this violent, awful circumstance

0:56.6

that kills people and takes away their freedom.

1:06.1

We've got another great show for everyone today.

1:09.1

Saga is out of town this week in Paris, France with his parents celebrating a Wotuzerv

1:15.4

bit of R&R after a crazy two months with breaking points and everything we're doing here

1:20.2

in the Realignment.

1:21.2

But we recorded this episode last week so that we can continue to have really great shows

1:26.2

for everyone.

1:27.2

We are speaking with Spencer Ackerman of the Forever War sub-stack and a contributing

1:31.9

editor at the Daily Beast.

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